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Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map
« on: February 26, 2013, 03:05:52 AM »
Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map



Many people know that Jacksonville was once almost completely destroyed by fire in 1901.  At least they do now.  Twenty years ago, this was not widely known, but now the memory is so revived that there is even a commissioned Public Art work commemorating The Great Fire of 1901.  What is not as well known is that the Historic City of Jacksonville has been completely devastated four times since 1846.  Join us after the jump for details.

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Re: Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2013, 05:30:28 AM »
Brilliantly done.  I am reading the history of LaVilla that you sent me, Stephen.  Yesterday after a meeting at one of the newer suburban style offices built in LaVilla I drove around.  It is sickened me to think about the character of what we destroyed.

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Re: Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2013, 05:39:19 AM »
Nice Job Stephen!!


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Re: Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2013, 06:45:43 AM »
Simply horrible.  Looking at the disasters, the detonation of downtown in the name of revitalization is already a knock out blow that has been worse than yellow jack, the 1901 fire and the 1846 hurricane combined.  For many in our community, the solution is opposite of rebuild.  It's destroy, suck dry the remaining revenue base and use the cash to subsidize unsustainable development in the city's fringes.  At some point, our children and grandchildren will have a bill they can't pay, in an atmosphere that resembles any interstate exit across Anyplace USA, but that's their problem.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2013, 06:47:57 AM by thelakelander »
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Re: Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2013, 07:39:31 AM »
Definitely one of your best articles...and also one of the saddest.  Thanks for all your hard work and efforts for this. 

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Re: Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2013, 07:56:13 AM »
Our capacity to evolve personally and as a community is predicated on our willingness to learn, integrate and move forward.  THANK YOU for these thoughtful looks at our past, so we may NOT make the same mistakes again.

I believe we are in great times of INTEGRATION. How we leave our egos aside and work to collaborate with trustworthiness and respect will be the testament of our generation. I see many great efforts in our city and pray each and every day that we are able to come together to create a community that honors our past and bravely steps forward. Achieving that balance is the hallmark of an educated community willing to learn, evolve and create anew.

Thank you for getting me even more passionate about the future of our city and the impact Character Counts! in Jacksonville can have.

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Re: Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2013, 08:16:43 AM »
The DIA is on the way. Nice article. So are the tables and chairs in Hemming Plaza in or out? Tonight at city council we could be waiving the residency requirements for JSO. Obviously somebody is not all in. Lori Boyer, John Crescimbeni at the last Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting are looking in to the end of Catherine St. That is next to Shipyards III that was misrepresented by OGC in the 2013 FIND grant application process. There is an opportunity to provide a spark that could rebuild and market our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a FEDERAL Initiative in our newly created Zone to the world.

Anyone want to kayak from a Downtown launch that doesn't have a Mayor Brown kayak logo and we'll fish under the brand new No Fishing signs that was never before Waterways.

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Re: Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2013, 08:26:50 AM »
Who wants to go downtown..the conservative home guard have been working for years
To hand over the entire city to the first baptist church..i call for them to be taxed as the business they are and be banned from purchasing any more property downtown..its ridiculously how this group has been allowed control this city and its leaders....how many members from that church are on the  council?..im ashamed and imbarrassed by them and the way they treat people and the city

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Re: Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2013, 08:43:49 AM »
Nice article. And interesting take on 1846. I haven't heard of the hurricane connection outside of this site.
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Re: Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2013, 08:57:27 AM »
so how do we recover from the Dynamite disaster?

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Re: Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2013, 09:14:49 AM »
A mobility fee moratorium should do the trick.
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Re: Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2013, 09:16:43 AM »
Great work Stephen!

Really enjoyed this one, especially the Yellow Jack details.

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Re: Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2013, 09:27:50 AM »
Excellent article Stephen.  What would be very interesting too, would be to understand the fundamental mechanisms through which individuals or groups made the decisions resulting in the destruction you’ve outlined in the article.  There seems to have been, hidden from the view of the average person, a momentum of control, or decision making, which has for decades obviously not been for the good of the downtown core, but has been, apparently, for the good of someone, or some group. 

One might wonder today, how much of the same mechanism is at work, and how can it be confronted, weakened, or removed so that only positive decisions and moves can be made, so that the downtown core can be allowed to achieve a strength and independence we’ve not seen since the fifties and sixties.  The city core is a dependent entity now, almost childlike, whereas it was an independent powerhouse decades ago.  It is as if the city core is a living entity, and this, simply because it has become weak, dependent, childlike, controllable, and always in need of desperate assistance. 

However, the core can again be made strong and independent, like an adult, assuming a self-sustaining momentum.  And thus, it will require almost no control or assistance simply because it will have become its own prime mover, its own powerhouse of energy.  The removal of control by those who are comfortably favored by it, and the offering of freedom to the creative abilities of individuals who can make the magic, should be the goal of those desiring full vibrancy in the city core.     
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Re: Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2013, 09:32:54 AM »
Very well done!  Thanks

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Re: Four Things That Nearly Wiped Jacksonville Off The Map
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2013, 10:23:54 AM »
I think Jacksonville was a victim of dynamite because it was a city with big ambitions, one where they never saw downtown as doing anything other than booming.  Not realizing that tearing down the historic buildings gave it charm, energy and life. They just didn't want to have to walk too far to park to shop in downtown.  Now we have a city of surface parking lots, with not much to see or do.  While it's a shame to lose so much history, the city is primed for an urban renewal by eliminating one parking lot at a time.  The availability of prime real estate, without blocks of historic landmarks, will allow developers a clean slate to create a future city in the image that Jacksonville needs and wants today.  I just hope it is rebuilt more sustainable for the next 100 years.