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Downtown Skateboarding Ban Proposed
« on: May 31, 2016, 02:55:35 PM »
http://www.news4jax.com/news/local/jacksonville/city-councilman-wants-to-ban-skateboarding-downtown

It's this kind of time and money wasting that makes Jacksonville look foolish and tragically behind the times. Next Gulliford will be proposing to ban that hippity hop dancing that all the kids are getting into these days.
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Re: Downtown Skateboarding Ban Proposed
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2016, 03:09:37 PM »
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“I’ve been approached at times by people who feel at risk by some of the skateboarders downtown,” Gulliford said. “They approach police officers, and police officers say there’s nothing on the books that they can enforce.”

Yeah, because there's nothing on the books the police can do to enforce it now. What BS, there's far too many laws as it is.
And what's the goal of city council, to ban absolutely everyone and everything from downtown? They're on their way!
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Re: Downtown Skateboarding Ban Proposed
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2016, 03:10:14 PM »

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Re: Downtown Skateboarding Ban Proposed
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2016, 03:11:03 PM »
Why does he even have a say? Doesn't he represent the beaches area? An urban core rep has no say about what happens at the beaches! Why is he able to do this; it just seems unfair! I guess that's one of the problems with consoldation.

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Re: Downtown Skateboarding Ban Proposed
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2016, 03:24:37 PM »


Gulliford has never looked so good! Or sensible..
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Re: Downtown Skateboarding Ban Proposed
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2016, 03:32:31 PM »
I guess you will have to vote out guilliford and tell him we will "share the details later".

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Re: Downtown Skateboarding Ban Proposed
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2016, 03:33:58 PM »
The far more destructive transportation thing is of course cars.  They constantly damage buildings, signs, people etc.

If you follow Gulliford's reasoning, then shouldn't they be the first to go?

He's really overreaching here. All the people I know who skate are over 30 and most own their own homes. So, they're not allowed to travel in the downtown area unless it's on a city council approved mechanism? Is this going to cover longboards? Waveboards? Hoverboards? Rollerblades? Roller skates? How long until he decides that he doesn't trust people on foot or the way bicycles look?
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Re: Downtown Skateboarding Ban Proposed
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2016, 03:43:09 PM »
God, What a dumbass.

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Re: Downtown Skateboarding Ban Proposed
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2016, 04:18:27 PM »
Because Skateboarders down town are such a high priority right now. <tic> Good thing the old man is preparing his golden parachute and moving to a ranch he just bought out west. Can we get the damn career politicians out of here already!?
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Re: Downtown Skateboarding Ban Proposed
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2016, 11:12:10 PM »
Why does he even have a say? Doesn't he represent the beaches area? An urban core rep has no say about what happens at the beaches! Why is he able to do this; it just seems unfair! I guess that's one of the problems with consoldation.

It has nothing to do with consolidation.  Any council member can submit legislation.  And that happens all over the country.

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Re: Downtown Skateboarding Ban Proposed
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2016, 06:21:16 AM »
This ban seems like a waste of Jax's resources. Downtown needs all the people it can get.....even skateboarders.
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Re: Downtown Skateboarding Ban Proposed
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2016, 09:02:08 AM »
Gulliford is also drinking from the "Stupid Juice" and everyone in city hall should look to stay clear of him, as he is crazy. He's not Bishop Crazy yet, but he's getting there soon, with more stupid ideas.

He wanted to be Mayor of Jax at one time too....Ugh!
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Re: Downtown Skateboarding Ban Proposed
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2016, 12:03:54 PM »
Man, I wish that I could ban everything that simply annoyed me...the person in the cubicle behind me that passes gas all day long, some of Stephen Dare's comments, the ridiculous number of one-way streets in DT, the list can go on and on.
Skateboarding is a travel form, just like scooters, cars and motorcycles. People act the fool operating all of those as well, but they are not banned. Most skateboarders don't bother anyone so what's the deal?
Must be nice sitting high and mighty in your pleather high-backed chair commanding rules and bans on the commoners. Douche.
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Re: Downtown Skateboarding Ban Proposed
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2016, 11:04:13 PM »
Stay Positive.

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Re: Downtown Skateboarding Ban Proposed
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2016, 08:02:09 AM »
Any decision about skateboards should be made according to how it impacts the core’s journey to vibrancy; that is, a decision should result in an overall positive to the core, as viewed by the individuals already in the core, or those contemplating working or living within it.

What is their practical impact?  They are often noisy … on occasion, and on certain surfaces, offending the ear with sharp grating sounds, offending the ear like loud music, continual shouting, or motorcycle and auto engines lacking sufficient muffling.   

And what of possible injury to sidewalk pedestrians …  as is the case with bicycles on sidewalks?  And what of impact with autos?  I have witnessed at least two impacts between bicycles and sidewalk pedestrians within the last three years or so, and have seen perhaps only two or three with skateboarders …  one being yesterday afternoon -- the pedestrian walked off grumbling … understandably.

If the above are the negatives regarding skateboards, what are the positives?  As always regarding rules and laws, the idea of freedom alone is of utmost importance … and a positive .... when it can be achieved, as it is the very stuff of life .. especially to the younger of the species. 

The occasional inconvenience of noise, and the increased caution one must observe on the sidewalk is a small price to pay for encouraging life in the core.  These young people, while they impart slight negatives in noise and the necessity for sidewalk vigilance, they add life to the core …  enjoying their acceptance … accumulating positive memories, and therefore an increased likelihood of their return as adults to work and live in the core. 

Just as the “authorities” must on occasion, when a citizen exceeds reasonable levels regarding loud music, motorcycles, autos, or shouting -- offending excessively the ears of surrounding citizens -- force a reduction in what is usually a borderline behavior, the same should be for a habitually unsafe or careless skateboarder, especially after they cause two or three pedestrian injuries.

Perhaps an occasional workshop for skateboarders would be in order; that is, to convey what is desired or expected of them in the core … so that the pressure to restrict the skateboards is held at bay. 

If the sidewalks and streets were crowded, as in the forties and the fifties, there would be little room for the boards.  Now … it seems appropriate to allow reasonable freedom to these young people who add, overall, a “positive” go the core.