Black Sheep Restaurant Group Planning New Restaurant for 5 Points

[grimss]

^ I suspect glimpses of ankles just don't do it for most guys anymore . . .

[904Scars]

Don't like the proposed triangular building here?  Try these for inspiration.  

I'm sort of favoring this one for some reason. It has that modern look with the fair amount of glass, yet still has that historical spin with the brick accents. Those are all pretty cool looking buildings none the less.

[fieldafm]

So, did some pondering on this morning's bike ride.  A setback more similar to 1661 would be far more beneficial...



but, how would that be acheived given the size of this lot?





Especially since, as is my understanding part of the east side of the property will be configured to add more paking?



Furthermore, how would the proposed design be any different from the existing street now?  As you can see, its already a pretty crowded/squeezed pedestrian experience as it is...



As you can see here, without subtracting parking(already a noted concern) there isn't much space to create this desired setback configuration.



This is an interesting project.

[thelakelander]

The site is pretty small so it may be illogical, financially speaking, for the developer to reduce the building's square footage for additional landscaping.  On the other hand, the public ROW is much wider than it has to be.  Perhaps, the best answer is to reduce the width of the lanes in the road to make room for more sidewalk space.

[Kay]

Don't like the proposed triangular building here?  Try these for inspiration.  



























Of course the most famous granddaddy of all triangular buildings, New York's Flatiron Building!

All of these design are so much more inspiring than what is being proposed.

[tayana42]

Looking at Feldafm's photos of the site, the idea of a 120 seat restaurant, a floor of condominiums, a floor of offices, and a rooftop bar, just seems like the developer is trying to put way too much on this little piece of dirt. 

All the triangle shaped building photos submitted earlier are built on larger, usually much larger pieces of land.

This project needs to be downsized by about 50% to work on this site.

[thelakelander]

The majority of the images of above are buildings that are much denser.  A lot of the parcel sizes in the photo above also look to be similar in size.  


This looks like a four story building on a similar sized lot with no adjacent parking.

I fine with the density but does anyone know if what is proposed is denser than what is allowed on site by law?

[fieldafm]

Its my understanding that in the zoning meeting(they have to get a change in zoning to allow for a PUD) they will also have to ask for an exception to the 9' setback limit.

Maybe Kay can be more specific though...?

[grimss]

I understand the project was essentially green-lighted at the Planning Commission meeting last night, without any requirements for setbacks. Maybe someone who was there can provide additional information?